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Title: NMBDR June 26th - July 7th 2020
Post by: Pixturethis on April 18, 2018, 04:06:54 PM
So my plan is to do the. NMBDR starting on May 17th to the 25th. Will ride down to dell city Texas spend the night and head north for the trip. Iíll be on my DL650 and hope to camp for maybe 2 to 3 days, then hotel it for a night. Ride ends at Antonio, Colorado. Headed back to Wichita.
The BDR is not a hard one but is the longest at 1200 miles.
Anyone is welcome to join me, if not Iíll do my normal and go alone.

* Edit by Forum Admin - Updating topic for 2020 date - NB
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on April 19, 2018, 03:45:32 PM
At the moment, I'm going to plan on riding with you on this one! The BDRs look great, but I don't really fancy going out that far alone; just for safety reasons.

I'm trying to talk a buddy of mine into buying a 4x4 to do BDRs. He has a bad back and couldn't ride any kind of long distance, but he's done 'jeeping' before, and I think he'd have fun. Plus, chase truck for gear! :D

Whether or not he'll do it though, I have no idea.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on April 19, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
Awesome Nick, looking forward to having you along.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: wichita_zeb on April 25, 2018, 11:24:34 AM
Link and I did this ride last summer and it was the best ride I've ever been on.  As far as the technical aspect, it does have some sections that are definitely challenging in the national forest.  If it has rained before you get to the "White Sands" area, you'll have a slick time ahead of you there.  If you can swing it, book a night through AirB&B in Ramah, NM at the "Wild Sheep Place" .  The people there are awesome and the view out the back is one of the most memorable of the trip.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on May 20, 2018, 06:41:31 PM
Nice Zeb, I might have to pick your brain sometime.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on July 09, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
What kind of camping gear should I make sure that I have, besides the obvious tent & bedroll? I'll want a chair, which I don't have at the moment; but other than that I don't have a lot of camp equipment to go on the bike for like cooking, etc.

I'm not entirely certain how much camp cooking goes on on a ride like this, to be honest. If there's any at all I'm pretty sure I'll need a stove and kettle set, and some kind of coffee machine; a way to carry plenty of water, etc.

Specific suggestions appreciated!

EDIT: Oh look they put a handy 'packing list' on the website https://ridebdr.com/NMBDR:

Camping Gear

    Sleeping bag
    Pillow
    Roll pad
    Tent
    Dry bags (2) for tent, sleeping pad & sleeping bag
    Water storage (Dromedary Bag)
    Folding hand saw
    Water filter
    Eating utensils
    Lighter / waterproof matches
    Can opener
    Pots & pans
    Coffee brewing device
    Coffee cup
    Headlamp (2)
    Kitchen set & spices
    Stove
    Stove fuel bottle
    Folding camp chair
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: ajayhawkfan on July 17, 2018, 12:15:33 PM
Toilet paper is a good thing to bring if camping.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: wadedawg on August 06, 2018, 07:51:00 AM
I just returned from riding the COBDR.  I plan to ride NMBDR next and would like to join the group
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on August 11, 2018, 02:44:04 PM
I've been talking to my buddy who used to be into "jeeping". He's getting more and more interested in buying a 4x4 to go on BDRs (he can't ride because of back back injuries).

We're doing a mini-adventure this October, and if it goes well he's probably going to buy a 4x4 and he'll want to come too. Having a chase truck with tools, water, food, etc could make life a lot more comfortable out there :)
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on November 04, 2018, 01:01:34 PM
We had a great ride in the Jeep a few weekends ago, following the Kansas Adventure Route from Howard to Teeter Rock, handily covering all terrain except a large rock shelf on 515 road that the rental Jeep didn't have enough ground clearance to get over.

Results were excellent and Scott is completely onboard with joining us via 4x4 for the New Mexico BDR - especially after watching the NMBDR video I purchased at ridebdr.com :)

I'm hopeful that my knee will be better by the time we're ready to go for this adventure.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: BinaryFu on November 04, 2018, 01:57:31 PM
Hey y'all. Nick suggested I register on here and open up my big mouth, so here I am.

I'm Scott, his buddy with a bad back and the potential support vehicle operator.

As it stands now, we're definitely looking forward to joining in the BDR if possible, and it may be something my wife is interested in joining up to co-pilot with me.

Looking forward to meeting and greeting all of you and hearing suggestions/ideas for a good vehicle to look for in the future. For now, I'll most likely be renting a Jeep Wrangler Sahara that's equipped for light off-road use from the factory.

The Jeep we tested out in your home turf was a bone-stock Jeep Cherokee (2018) with all-season radials (15"). We barely had 6" of ground clearance, so I couldn't even deflate for better traction or anything - we were at the mercy of the 4wd system and it handled like a champ.

As Nick said, the only issue was a wash-out shelf that was just a touch too steep that I wasn't confident I wouldn't plant her on it and have to call for some help.

Cheers,
Scott
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on November 04, 2018, 07:41:09 PM
Good to see a few wanting to do this. Would like to have any and all that want to come along.
Only bad thing is due to me having a new job and not having very much time off work, I might have to either make it laster in the year or let someone else take this ride over till I can go.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on December 17, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
I'm fine with later in the year - more time for my knee to heal up, anyways. Since it was your idea brought forth I would personally rather wait until you're set to go.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on February 07, 2019, 11:02:22 AM
Due to the new job, Cessna doesn't give very much vacation time for new hires, so I will either have to postpone this ride till September, which for many is a busy month or plan on next year. Still want to do some of the local rides this year.  On a good note, it might allow me to do the west part of the OAT. I have it split up in 2, 3 day weekends. IF anyone wants I can start a new thread on it.
Marc
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Nick Bright on February 07, 2019, 07:05:43 PM
Due to the new job, Cessna doesn't give very much vacation time for new hires, so I will either have to postpone this ride till September, which for many is a busy month or plan on next year. Still want to do some of the local rides this year.  On a good note, it might allow me to do the west part of the OAT. I have it split up in 2, 3 day weekends. IF anyone wants I can start a new thread on it.
Marc

I'd be interested in tagging along on the OAT. September is going to be pretty busy, lots of rides lining up already.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: wadedawg on February 08, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
I'm still in. 
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on March 06, 2019, 10:38:15 AM
Thanks Nick, we will get together and what dates work for us, and anyone else wants to come on the OAT. I can send anyone the tracks I have set up for the 32 parts of the OAT.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: will_kc on March 06, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
I am interested in the tracks.  Looking at running down to Bartlesville catching the OAT west and south to Guthrie/Edmond.  Probably in May.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: ajayhawkfan on March 07, 2019, 10:02:16 AM
I am interested in the tracks.  Looking at running down to Bartlesville catching the OAT west and south to Guthrie/Edmond.  Probably in May.
I'm looking at doing the OAT starting March 15th if weather cooperates.  If not going to do a Texas Hill Country Loop or a loop through Louisiana. 
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2019
Post by: Pixturethis on March 07, 2019, 03:05:38 PM
I donít know if my route will help as it is from Wichita to Altus lake, then on the route to the salt flats, then back to Wichita. You can download the route from the ADRider website on the OaT thread.
Title: Re: NMBDR May 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on July 02, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
Pixturethis and I are planning on 4th of July weekend 2020 in New Mexico for the New Mexico BDR (https://ridebdr.com/nmbdr/)!

We will have a 4x4 Jeep-ish vehicle with us as well - a buddy of mine from Nashville with a bad back can't ride, but wants to go! As such we'll have a chase truck with fuel, luggage, tools, food, and so on.

The specific dates/times to leave/return aren't quite set yet, but we are planning on a 9 day round trip.
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020 - BDR UPDATE
Post by: Nick Bright on August 31, 2019, 04:08:33 PM
So I'm super excited for this next year, and being a compulsive planner I'm already working on this.

Currently the plan is that Scott will be joining us in a Jeep, meaning we'll have some more room than just what we carry on our bikes. Sorry, household finance committee decided on a cruise, so no Jeep!

The current thinking is a 9 to 10 day trip with lodging every other or every third night, with camping in between.
Some camping may be primitive dry camping with no facilities available.
Group cooking means we'll need to figure out how we are going to deal with purchasing and transporting food for each day(s).
With a jeep along, we will have room to transport some (but not all) of our luggage in the vehicle, making the bikes lighter. This will probably work out to keeping your panniers on, but not needing to carry a pile of gear on top of the tail.

Conditions:
We'll be in New Mexico in July. Average temperatures are expected to be 91-94f, though we will spend most of our time at >4,000ft altitudes where it will be slightly cooler. It's still probably going to be pretty warm, so equip yourself appropriately. For those of us used to riding in the Midwest heat at 90f+, it should feel like any other summer ride.

You can take a look at weather averages here https://weatherspark.com/countries/US/NM (https://weatherspark.com/countries/US/NM)

Typically most places in the mountains will have July highs in the high 80's to low 90's, and on the valley floors highs will be in the mid 90's.
   
This will be the rainy season for New Mexico. We should expect mud, and may need to go around muddy sections depending on the rain.

Recommended hot weather gear:

Group Communications:

Each Rider will need/want:

The Group will need:
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Pixturethis on September 02, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Great amount of info Nick, canít wait to go with you on this trip, Iím sure itís going to be a blast.
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on November 15, 2019, 05:09:45 PM
We're setting dates. 7/3/2020 to 7/12 or 7/13/2020.

Will leave out of Dell City, TX in the morning on 7/4 with an expected 7 days on the route through 7/11, and 7/12 to get home. Discussion is to perhaps add a day on the end for buffer - losing time in rain or mud, etc.
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on December 05, 2019, 04:40:13 PM
I spoke with our possible Jeeper, it looks like his Household Finance Committee decided that they're going on an Alaska cruise instead, so he in all likelihood will not be able to come along. Looks like it will be just bikes!
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Pixturethis on December 05, 2019, 05:57:44 PM
Iím sure we will be fine. Maybe make a list of things to bring per bike. No reason for every bike to bring a tire pump, or no need for everyone to bring there own cooking items. But I think it will be ok to NOT share cloths !
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Pixturethis on January 13, 2020, 07:48:13 PM
Looks like we might have 6 going so far. Nick, Phil Denk,Jon from Hutchinson, Ken Ertl, Dow Butts and myself.
If anyone is planning on coming along please let Nick or I know.
Thanks Marc
Title: Re: NMBDR July 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on January 17, 2020, 02:05:32 AM
Looks like we have dates set for the trip!

June 27th (Leave after work the 26th) through July 5th, with the 6th and 7th as "oh shit, we got stuck somewhere!" extra days on the end in case of rain, mud, mechanical, stopping to smell the roses, or checking out something cool.

That should be 6 vacation days if you have the 3rd off for the 4th of July holiday.

Dow and Phil are trailering from what Marc has told me, so I think the general plan would be to meet up at or near Dell City or Carlsbad on the 28th

I've attached a work in progress Google Earth file that has routes, campgrounds, some alternates, and ideas in it.

Right now what I have written down is to camp every night except June 29th I think it might be nice to get a room in Truth or Consequences - a nice hot shower and a bed in the middle of the trip; then on the last night - the 4th of July - there is a pretty neat looking lodge near the end of the trail - http://www.conejosranch.com/

I think it would be pretty awesome to sit out on the deck, have some cold beers, and relax after a long ride :)
Title: Re: NMBDR June 26th - July 7th 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on May 12, 2020, 05:00:08 PM
Hey all - Just an update to say we are still planning on going, most of the stay at home and shutdowns should be easing off by the end of June, and we'll spend most of our time pretty far from people!
Title: Re: NMBDR June 26th - July 7th 2020
Post by: Pixturethis on May 28, 2020, 10:15:09 AM
Still on for this ride. Starting June 27th meeting in dog canyon state park. Ending July 4-5th.  Here is some info on the route we plan to take

The plan is to meet in Dog canyon, TX on June 27th in the morning to leave in the route. Planning to camp  and hotel . If weather gets bad we might hotel it more.  The route is 1200 miles of NM off road riding. I believe about 1000miles is off road. We will finish in Antonito , CO hopefully on July 4th or 5th. Then head home.

We will leave Dog Canyon on June 27th on the route. Will be meeting another rider in Queen,NM getting gas/breakfast and on the route. 
So far I have this.
Day 1  June 26 Wichita to Altus lake to camp.  263 miles 4.5 hr
Day 2 altus to Dog Canyon to camp. 468 mi.
Day 3 dog canyon to Ruidoso to hotel. 
Day 4 Ruidoso to TorC to hotel.
Day 5 TorC to reserve, camp at Apache park 11mi north. 
Day 6 reserve to Ramah. Nick and I have a Airbnb, everyone else will have to do what they want. This will be July 1st leaving July 2nd in the morning.
Day 7 Ramah to Cuba camp at terasaís rv park
Day 8 Cuba to Antonito, CO. Staying at the narrow gauge railroad inn $60 in Antonio,CO
Day 9 headed back home.

Please remember everyone is responsible for there own lodging every night. I will post more as I work on the ride.
Title: Re: NMBDR June 26th - July 7th 2020
Post by: Nick Bright on May 28, 2020, 03:14:11 PM
Day 1  June 26 Wichita to Altus lake to camp.  263 miles 4.5 hr
Day 2 altus to Dog Canyon to camp. 468 mi.
Day 3 dog canyon to Ruidoso to hotel. 
Day 4 Ruidoso to TorC to hotel.
Day 5 TorC to reserve, camp at Apache park 11mi north. 
Day 6 reserve to Ramah. Nick and I have a Airbnb, everyone else will have to do what they want. This will be July 1st leaving July 2nd in the morning.
Day 7 Ramah to Cuba camp at terasaís rv park
Day 8 Cuba to Antonito, CO. Staying at the narrow gauge railroad inn $60 in Antonio,CO
Day 9 headed back home.

Some camping options:
Day 3 - Ruidoso - Skyline Campground 33.419860, -105.733802 - Primitive w/ pit toilet, appears to be free.
Day 4 - Truth or Consequences - Elephant Butte Lake State Park (http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/elephantbuttelakestatepark.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjZt9WEr9fpAhUwgK0KHSWcDAAQ61gIwAIoDzAA&usg=AOvVaw1jkXX7wroIMWgXsyS8vlsF) 33.181704, -107.208866 $8 to $10 camping.
Day 6 - Ramah - El Morro National Monument Campground (https://www.nps.gov/elmo/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm) (MAY BE CLOSED DUE TO COVID)